Colon detoxification – myth versus science

Colon detoxification – myth versus science

Listen to the radio for a few minutes. Or watch late night television for a bit. Through the commercials hawking insurance with talking geckos, promoting treatments for erectile dysfunction, and, exhibiting the coolest, fastest, most fuel efficient car, you will run across the reason for all that ails you–your failure to use colon detoxification to fix your problems.

Colon detoxification or, sometimes, cleansing is one of those strange alternative medicine ideas that hangs around without one single bit of evidence supporting it. We’re going to take a look at it with the feathery dinosaur’s skeptical eye.

The myth of colon detoxification

The belief in this junk medicine started with the “death begins in the colon” trope, which has over 4 million Google hits. It’s an idea started by the Bernard Jensen, chiropractor and pusher of the wide breadth of pseudoscientific woo, including hydrotherapyfastingreflexology, color therapy, polarity, glandular balancing, homeopathyherbologyacupuncturecraniopathy and personology.

The basic principle of colon detoxification is that the colon has years of built up “toxins” which are the cause of all disease; the cure for all illnesses then is to cleanse all the “toxins” from one’s body. It always amuses me that the woo pushers have absolutely no science backing their nonsense. Consequently, they make it so easy. Take this supplement, you disease will be cured. Rarely is that true.

There’s a whole bunch of junk science pseudoscience built into this myth, such as, “the management of constipation is one of the most important steps you can take to protect your health.  The consequences of colon toxins, from the accumulating, rotting debris, colon parasites, attached to the wall of a sluggish colon, damaging your body, stealing your food, poisoning your body with their wastes are going to make you sick before it kills you.” Rotting debris? Really. Seriously, what are feces if not “rotting debris,” a fundamental function of a health colon.

One of the beliefs of the colon cleansing crowd is that there is some sort of toxic sludge layering the walls of the intestinal tract like “spackle.” Yeah, I heard spackle used in an advertisement, but the colon detox woo pushers usually call it “mucoid plaque.” It’s usually described as a black tar goo that adheres to the walls slowly releasing toxins into the bloodstream, while killing you.

Also some of these people also believe that you carry “pounds” of this stuff, so proper cleansing keeps your weight down. There are all kinds of photos of the mucoid plaques removed from intestines. Amusingly, many of the photos are from intestinal tracts impacted with the very substances that were supposed to cleanse the same colon! In other words, the photo below is exactly what you’d expect to see if you consumed a lot of the colon-cleansing stuff–it is simply the coagulated colon cleansing substance, not some “plaque” attached to the colon.

 

colon detoxification
What woo-pushers considered mucoid plaque. Actually can’t tell what it is.

Again, the colon detoxification pushers claim that:

  • Cleansing will reduce excessive weight
  • Cleansing will cure diseases (all kinds, just name it, they’ll blame it on your colon)
  • Cleansing will expel parasites
  • Cleansing will remove toxic chemicals
  • Cleansing will prevent death

So let’s review the peer reviewed articles that support these amazing claims. Hang on. They’re right here. Oh wait (assume crickets everywhere).

 

The real science

First, the whole idea presumes that our digestive tract is “clean.” Well, it isn’t. According to Science Based Medicine, the “colon is crawling with hundreds of species of bacteria, where the most common species (E. coli) makes up only 1% to 2% of the total bacterial count and by the time the stool makes it out around 10% of its mass is made up of bacteria.” Sounds disgusting, but frankly without all those bacteria we wouldn’t be able to digest food, and process certain foodstuffs. We should love our dirty colon.

We do have a certain obsession with bacteria and “germs.” Some microorganisms are definitely dangerous, if not deadly if they get into the gut. Listeria and some subtypes of E. coli can contaminate our food supply and can be very harmful.

But these are rare, and have little to do with your colon’s health. In general, your skin, mouth, intestine, lungs and other organs are filled with bacteria, most of them living in a harmonious relationship with your body.

According to an article in the LA Times, Dr. Bennett Roth, a gastroenterologist at UCLA simply states that these claims are “wrong.” He continues to say that, “there is absolutely no science to this whatsoever. There is no such thing as getting rid of quote-unquote ‘toxins.’ The colon was made to carry stool. This is total baloney.”

The fact is that the intestinal tract contains mostly bacteria, which can aid digestion. “An enema or laxative does not get rid of more ‘bad’ versus ‘good’ bacteria,” said Dr. David Heber, director of the UCLA Center for Human Nutrition, in the same LA Times article. It gets rid of both. “We don’t like the idea of carrying bacteria, so lots of folks want to cleanse. But remember, bacteria can be your friend.”

Other experts in gastroenterology have said the same thing. Dr. Ranit Mishori, an associate professor of family medicine at Georgetown University School of Medicine in Washington, D.C. has stated that, “I have yet to see a well-designed study on colon cleansing in a reputable medical journal to support its health claims.”

Dr. Mishori also added that colon detoxification had significant potential harm with little benefit. These issues include:

  1. Colon cleansing can cause side effects. We lack data on either potential benefits or risks from any cleansing method. This cleansing may put a person at risk of being dehydrated and creating massive electrolyte imbalances which can have an effect on normal heart rhythm and leg cramps. Some herbal cleanses may also be linked with liver damage.
  2. There’s no scientific evidence that colon detoxification actually removes toxins from the body or contributes to better health. 
  3. Sorry, but colon cleansing is not an effective strategy for weight loss. What ever weight loss observed is generally temporary as a result of the removal of excess water and stool. Real weight loss requires the permanent loss of fat tissue.
  4. Colon cleansing and colonic irrigation are not safe for everyone. Individuals with kidney disease or heart problems, who try colon cleansing, may have trouble maintaining proper fluid balance. And individuals with prior gastrointestinal problems, such as Crohn’s disease or ulcerative colitis, need to avoid colon detoxification because it may exacerbate the symptoms.
  5. Cleansing’s effect on gut bacteria is unknown. The gut contains beneficial and harmful bacterial that remain in a balance that keeps  you healthy. In fact, some of the good bacteria are critical in reducing levels of bad bacteria. A thorough colon cleanse cannot possibly get rid of all bacteria, but is indiscriminate in what it removes. It’s possible that the cleanse will actually support the growth of bad bacteria, which will really make you sick.

Frankly, there is just no evidence of any of these claims about colon detoxification or cleansing. If it were true, it would be on of the most studied parts of medicine, the one panacea for all ills that afflict a human being. Physicians would test your bowels on your first visit to determine the state of your health.

What is most amusing is that a PubMed search of colon+mucoid+plaques produces precisely 0 hits. In addition, in a review of websites promoting products that claim to remove ‘mucoid rope’ or plaque from consumers’ intestines, Howard Hochster, Professor of Medicine and Pharmacology at New York University School of Medicine, wrote that these websites are “abundant, quasi-scientific, and unfortunately convincing to a biologically uneducated public.” He also noted that these sites can be entertaining, but they are troubling in that they promote a belief that has no basis in gastrointestinal physiology.

 

The TL;DR version

It seems that the colon detoxification promoters have some odd obsession with bowel movements, even the quality and quantity of those movements. Dietary fiber is important in a well balanced diet, and the modern American diet seems to be lacking in the whole grains, fruits and vegetables that provide significant amounts of good fiber. But cleansing the colon is an unnecessary waste of money and time.

There is absolutely no evidence, none whatsoever, that colon detoxification helps you in any way. It is junk medicine and pseudoscience, nothing more. I thoroughly searched various medical research databases to find anything that would indicate that colon detoxification is supported by any sort of evidence based medicine. There was none.

Wait, I was wrong. Colon cleansing is n important step prior to colonoscopy. The gastroenterologist needs a colon cleaned of fecal material so that he can visualize any polyps and other precancerous lesions on the wall of the colon. The pre-procedure colon cleanse is very thorough, and there is no evidence that a giant mucoid plaque is pushed out of your colon. There is one more thing about colonoscopies – which uses a high resolution camera to visualize the colon wall – physicians have never observed a “mucoid plaque.” You’d think after millions of these images, dozens of papers would be published about this concrete impacting the colon. Funny that.

To be honest, this just appears to be another way for quacks to make money from gullible consumers who think that cleansing their gut will be their way to cure all that ails them. That’s it.

Editor’s note: This article was originally published in April 2013. It has been revised and updated to clear up some issues, to fix some formatting problems, and to clear up some wording.

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The Original Skeptical Raptor
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  • Pete

    First: Whoever wrote this bullshit is a fucking idiot. Second: Who are you working for? Third: how does it feel enabling humans to stay ill, and suffer for Zionists profits? Once you see through the illusion, you become the solution.

  • Kaytee

    This mucoid plaque also occur during high fiber diets (such as including Metamucil).

  • CommonCents

    there are how many thousands/millions of colonoscopies, surgeries, autopsies performed every year. Where is the evidence on video of all this waste and placque? It’s either there or it isn’t. Where are the stats from all the above procedures giving us the number and % of patients who encounter these problems? Math and science rock, where are they in this case? Where are the anecdotes from above doctors running into these problems during scope procedures? During surgeries and autopsies?

    • There were 3.5 million colonoscopies last year. And I have seen not one paper that says “dammit, we can’t see any polyps or cancers because of this thick plaque covering the intestinal wall.”

      I had a colonoscopy. I got cleansed, because you have to do that. Nothing of this sort came out of my intestinal tract.

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  • Sandy Perlmutter

    For all you colon cleansing fans out there:

    1) Colon cleansing is a scam perpetrated by colon cleansing shills all over the internet. It is only ONE scam of the hundreds out there. Keep on supporting scams and making scammers rich!

    2) Science is REALLY DIFFICULT and includes a ton of mathematical analysis of experimental design and results. Sometime it takes several repeats of the research to get at the underlying truth.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/science-isnt-broken/?ex_cid=newsletter-the-week-in-data

  • Diddly doo

    Kind of interesting that the only evidence you seem to accept is published in medical peer reviewed journals, why is that?

    • Sandy Perlmutter

      Because that is what evidence is, observations that have been published in medical peer-reviewed journals. Not on “nutrition” websites. All the crap written below as testimonials to “natural supplements”, “denatura”, juices and enemas, and so forth is just crap, similar to what comes out of your colon.

      Everyone needs to make use of Quackwatch. This is the relevant page for the current discussion: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/gastro.html

      Quackery has a long, ignoble history, and most of you “cleansers” have been sucked into the quack pool.

      • Diddly doo

        Sandy – you are not up to speed, the ex editor of the British Medical Journal has said medical peer review is a sacred cow ready for slaughter. He went on to say that most of what is published is nonsense. Basically you get what you pay for.
        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientific-peer-reviews-are-a-sacred-cow-ready-to-be-slaughtered-says-former-editor-of-bmj-10196077.html

        I agree Quackpotwatch is right up to speed with outing the total Aholes who think arthritis is deficiency in painkillers and that you can catch swine flu.

        http://www.quackpotwatch.org/quackpots/quackpots/barrett.htm
        Here you can see that Sandy’s favorite author is a total fraud. Well at least you are honest about this – well done.

        • Sandy Perlmutter

          Don’t confuse us with links to your crap. Quackpotwatch is just a diatribe against a very old and reliable source of information on the profit-seeking phony “alternative health” and other quackery. A full index is available at quackwatch.org. The site covers all the woo you would want, including cleansing, homeopathy, naturopathy, etc.

          Someone should indeed be watching all you quackpots, but it isn’t quackpotwatch; use http://www.quackwatch.com/ or the .org link I gave above.

          There is a page on there with some of the nasty stuff you “believers” have written.

          Nasty Comments from Quackwatch Visitors

          Stephen Barrett, M.D.

          Many people feel deeply offended when their beliefs are challenged. Here’s a selection of nasty e-mail comments I have received from such people during the past few years. Most were sent anonymously; the rest were edited remove identifying information. I find it interesting how people who disagree with something I write assume all sorts of evil things about my motivation, insult my intelligence, to call me nasty names, and/or wish bad things would happen to me. Religious themes are also common. Many writers appear to believe that my views are determined by financial considerations and/or controlled by outside entities such as drug companies or organized medicine. Many appear absolutely certain that their health-related beliefs are valid. Many just “scream” about me without specifying what (if anything) they have read on my sites that bothers them. Many appear to be incapable of considering that my Internet activities reflect my genuine beliefs and are done as a public service.”

          This is the guy you blasted as “…Sandy’s favorite author is a total fraud” in your stupid link.

          Somebody has to clean out the pigsty, and SR and this guy have jumped in to help.

    • Peer-reviewed may not be perfect, but it’s about one trillion times better than anecdotes and lies.

      But instead of sniping from the sidelines with ignorant pseudoscience, why don’t you provide us with peer-reviewed papers that support this bullshit. Get it. Bullshit. LOL

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  • Oli Gilbert
  • huh ?

    CRAP ! … There’s good and bad cleanses, and sites like this are usually on big pharma payroll and they usually only focus on the bad cleanses that get poor and/or negative results (some of which are big pharma products designed to get bad results so they can use the data to slam all cleanses as all alike), or they spin actual data to sound negative. It all boils down to doctors can’t pay for their fancy homes, cars, vacations, and lucrative lifestyles if people are healthy.
    I used the drnatura.com system with incredible results – after seeing my results, an elderly co-workers wife who was seeing several doctors who had her on a number of meds tried it and no longer needs the doctors or meds. And there’s one sure fire way to prove it once and for all – Try a high quality cleanse system and see for yourself not only how effective, but how remarkably fast it works – the older more run down, sickly, and overweight the person is the more noticeable the results = nothing short of spectacular !!!

  • Just a head’s up, Raptor: The coding for the e-mail notifications is wonky. When I clink on the links, I’m given “The website has a redirect loop,” and the page doesn’t load. So, it is something in this part of the code: ?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SkepticalRaptorsBlog+%28Skeptical+Raptor%27s+Blog%29

    When I delete that, the page loads without issue.

  • Sarah_dodo

    I honestly cannot believe that you’ve written this article, it’s totally shocking that science can be so ignorant (not that you personally know anything about science). I’m on day 6 of a detox of ONLY juices and daily enemas, I wasn’t sure about mucoid plaque but day 5 and I was feeling really ill,and sick and then this plaque came out. How an earth can you say that it doesn’t exist? You think I was just expelling juices? I already feel so much healthier, I can tell that what was inside me certainly wasn’t helping me. It’s so blindingly obvious that these substances inside us aren’t healthy.I would seriously recommend anyone who is feeling sluggish to do this, and you blogger should either try it or shut up, because you don’t know what your talking about and could inadvertently be stopping people from trying to get healthy! Also this is the worst written discussion I have ever read, you really discuss the topic, not, CONGRATS!

    • Ah you must have that odd definition of science that includes a priori beliefs can only be supported by a priori data.

      First, your anecdote is not worth anything, because it is not data or evidence.

      Second, you could be lying. That’s why anecdotes suck.

      Third, you don’t have a clue what science is. Try learning before you embarrass yourself with ignorance.

      • Diddly doo

        It is the lack of scientific inquiry that is disturbing here. If my car exhaust was full of carbon or my plugs oiled up, cleaning them makes sense. Why is someone lying when they tell you that cleaning out the colon made them feel better? I mean this whole medical evidence trip is rather odd. Colonoscopy doesn’t fix bowel cancer, it only looks at the bowel.

        • Sandy Perlmutter

          Actually, your friendly local colonoscopy includes removal of polyps and an evaluation to see if they are pre-cancerous. Those who have a lot of these things are told to have more frequent colonoscopies. Thus the rate of bowel cancer has dropped precipitously. Lives have been saved. You don’t know diddly about anything, especially doo.

    • Sandy Perlmutter

      Have you ever had a colonoscopy? The preparation for colonoscopy is extremely thorough, and involves only clear fluids, so there is no confusion. http://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/preparing-for-a-colonoscopy

      When you have done this, you have a truly clean colon, suitable for photography. Some years ago I had a doctor who allowed me to watch the camera as it wended its way up my colon. The inside of the colon is startlingly beautiful. It gave me a great respect for this important organ and its function in our health. We should not heedlessly molest it. Definitely, daily enemas are molestation that your God-given colon does not deserve.

      The colonoscopy prep and the examination itself are a fairly strenuous two days. I highly recommend it to anyone who has any anxiety about their colon. There is no danger from the normal contents of the colon; rather, colonoscopy enables the doctor to examine you for polyps that might be precancerous. The rate of bowel cancer has dropped precipitously since colonoscopy has become more frequent.

      So leave yourself alone and have a colonoscopy. It may save your life.

      • CommonCents

        exactly, there should be tons of video evidence from all the colonoscopies done of impacted placque. They scope all the way into the large intestine.

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  • jenbean12

    Some of you who are only looking at what “science” has to say, fail to realize that it also takes a bit of “good ol common sense”, which science and doctors fail at quite often! Do your own research, read all sides to every subject and come to your own conclusion instead of just blindly accepting everything “science” and doctors have to say. They’ve been known to be wrong a time or two!

    • No, science is an unbiased method to answer questions about the natural universe. There is only evidence and you have none.

      • Diddly doo

        Well that must be a medical science anecdote magnum. Medical science is always biased because it is medical people who do peer review. The ex editor of the British Medical Journal had this to say about medical peer review:’

        Dr Smith said “most of what is published in journals is just plain wrong or nonsense”
        https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news/slay-peer-review-sacred-cow-says-former-bmj-chief/2019812.article

        Septical Raptor needs to get up to speed with the evidence!

        • Sandy Perlmutter

          Dr Smith is having a senior moment. Reminds me of that Wakefield chap. Of course there are a lot of bullshit publications that will publish anybody’s garbage for money. We have freedom of the press. But everyone knows about them, and the academy are trying to do something about it.

          http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/science-isnt-broken/?ex_cid=newsletter-the-week-in-data

          • Diddly doo

            Let’s get this right. Anyone who disses vaccination or medical peer review is ‘sorted out’ by the ‘academy, whatever that is’ by having their findings dismissed as ‘senior moments?’ Is that what you mean by septic review, or is that one messed up belief system you have there? Whatever it is it isn’t science to shout down the whistle-blower, that is what the Catholic church does.

            • Sandy Perlmutter

              Nah, shouting down is what you and the rest of the “believers” do. Instead of “getting up to speed with the evidence”, you rant and rave. Go read some actual science instead of writing stupid polemics about things you don’t understand.

              While you are at it, get a colonoscopy, and ask for the pictures of your lovely God-given colon in its pristine state, and discuss the colon with the doctor. It is very enlightening! And it might save your life, if polyps are found.

            • Diddly doo

              “Go read some actual science” Sandypandy
              Well where do you suggest we do that then? If the ex editor of the BMJ thinks that his experience as the editor has taught him that medical peer review is largely nonsense, what don’t I understand about that? I know it must be devastating for you to suddenly have a belief system collapse, but blaming others who are trying to help just won’t help. Being in denial, Sandy, is not healthy.

            • Sandy Perlmutter

              Start with getting your head out of your ass and having a colonoscopy.

            • Diddly doo

              Well, inability to see that the editor of one of the world’s premiere peer reviewed medical journals says medical peer reviewed science is largely nonsense…………..ooooh that must be hard to take. Come on enlightened one, let’s see more than ad hom, get into a discussion because your head isn’t really that engaging. Is this the best you can do.? Maybe not. I suppose if your belief system is based on utter nonsense it’s probably too much to expect.

            • Sandy Perlmutter

              There is no point in discussing anything with a professional troll who is obviously shilling for non-scientific remedies. You spend a lot of time doing this, so you must be a paid shill for the colon cleanse etc industry.

            • Diddly doo

              Interesting ad hom, chicken.
              You haven’t discussed anything, maybe that’s because according to 3 ex editors of the world’s premiere medical peer reviewed journals at least 50% of your belief system is based on nonsense.

              Are you not concerned that those who are producing medical peer reviewed research are now telling us most of it is nonsense.

              Plenty to discuss there, how are you coping with this devastating evidence and what are you going to do about it Sandy – maybe you should get some councilling?

            • Diddly doo

              For the record I am not connected to the colon cleansing industry, I am in charge of my own evacuations. I am more bemused with your inability to comment on the own goals that medical peer review keep scoring. That in no way validates anything else.

              I don’t need to be paid to point that out. Come on, let’s hear what you think about the collapse of EBM and medical peer review, you aren’t doing so well so far. There has to be more substance to you than being banally rude! Or is that it, you are so in belief you can’t quite believe it’s true? Is everyone who disses medical peer review being ‘senior’ or ‘losing it’? Soon there won’t be anyone left.

              There is a saying, “if you can keep your head whilst everyone else is losing theirs, maybe you have misread the situation”

              So come on Sandy, have a go, it’s not too late to try really hard…..

              Think………………

            • Robert McAndrew

              Diddly Doo Doo, you have managed to use one of the oldest misdirection tricks in the book used by magicians and con men. The argument is not about Peer Reviewed Medical journals, but the claims of thousand of so called health experts espousing quack science. Get back on topic and argue your case.
              Regardless of whether you believe medical journals are BS or not, where are your scientific studies backing your arguments. Studies, facts, provable and reviewable data are the only paths to scientific knowledge and advancement.

            • Robert McAndrew

              Diddly Doo Doo, I cant let you get away with that claim without demanding the names of the three ex-editors, the journals they reviewed, and citations to the articles where they made those claims.

            • He’s much more likely to get back pics of his head stuck up there.

  • Jodi Meadows

    um, have you ever DONE a colon cleanse yourself?
    your claims are absurd and worthless if you haven’t.
    I am on day 6 of a colon cleanse and the stuff coming out of me looks exactly like the photo you posted above. I am crapping 4-5 times a day and pounds of this stuff is being released. I started this cleanse because I was having bowel issues for no apparent reason. For me, the true test will be how everything is functioning after I’m done with the cleanse, but at the moment i am 100% convinced that Mucoid Plaque is “real”, and it has been stuck in my body for years. Healthy skepticism is not believing in something without personally having experienced it, but for it to be informed and intelligent, the skeptic needs to ACTUALLY TEST THE THEORY THEMSELVES. So go do that. Do a month-long colon cleanse and then see if you can admit to being a complete douchebag in this post after you crap out all your fears.

    • Sandy Perlmutter

      Nonsense, just do the bowel prep I mentioned that is done for the colonoscopy. Your bowel will be clean as a whistle in 2 days, and while you are at it, go have the colonoscopy.

    • Robert McAndrew

      Pounds? I doubt it. Once again the exaggerations of the uninformed are astounding and sad. If you knew anything about the anatomy of your colon, you would realize that stuff doesn’t get stuck in there, unless you have a bowel disorder such as diverticulosis, or a giant tapeworm.
      Please spare us the dramatic declarations of pounds of stuff for years. First, I doubt you weighed it, and second, you can’t possibly know how long it has been there, if indeed there was anything. Stop drinking the Kool Aid!

      • Jodi Meadows

        since you are such an expert on MY BODY, please do tell me how it is possible that more matter can come out than is being put in? This is a physics problem, Mr. Scientist, you should have an answer.

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  • winsolo

    It has become alarming how many scientific zealots the contemporary age has created. The unquestioning scientific zealot relies solely on external sources to perform their scientific scrutiny and testing, while relaxing in the background. This relationship has created an arrogant group of people who claim they know information based on “scientific-based evidence”. Ironically, the same people who reference this information never do the experiment themselves! Science originated from peer testing and proving the hypothesis is false. However, people have beliefs and they reference experiments to reinforce their own selfish perceptions; moreover, claiming those who do not believe in the experiment are “pseudo-science believers”. They never try to anecdotally disprove or affirm the experiment they just read information and feel empowered by “knowledge”.

    As many have said, try it first and perform your experimental data rather than being a narrow-sighted zealot who claims they are rational-minded. This science inquiry has become rampant and has become its own religion in its own rights, as it shuns people and knowledge unfamiliar to its own. Lastly, the most intriguing aspect is that science was born out of personnel pursuit of inquiry. However, people, in the name of science have undoubtably referenced the experiments without ever second-guessing the data, results, or reproducing the experiment for themselves. Yet, they have the audacity to scorn and reproach a group of people who have collectively experimented and have repetitively produced positive results. Therefore, how about you put your “skeptical raptor” mind to use and start being skeptical of the very same science you undoubtably follow.

    • Robert McAndrew

      Sorry, but everyone is not required to perform every experiment on his/her own. Theories are put out into the scientific community for scrutiny by qualified peers. They are tested and retested. If necessary they are modified, and discarded if proven to be false. When enough evidence is gathered to show the theory is viable, it is accepted by the scientific community, but bear in mind, that all theories are open to experiment at all times.

      Your lengthy treatise, while very amusing, is naïve, and wrong. For your information, most of the physics that I know was learned through reading and attending classes and conferences. No person in his/her right mind would suggest that every person should perform every experiment in his/her field of study, we would never progress. Do you suggest that I go back and perform every experiment performed by every physicist in every area in which I profess to be an expert?

      What about you? Do you believe that the lights in the sky are stars and planets? If so, have you personally tested that theory? Do you believe in evolution? Have you performed the necessary research that allows you to profess to know that it is true?

      Where are the scientifically reproducible experiments you claim are out there backing your beliefs? Anecdotal evidence, such as the claim by one poster here of flushing pounds of waste material that had been stored for years, means nothing, thus the term anecdotal. I read and hear claims of all kinds of fantastic phenomena on a regular basis, but there is no reproducible evidence to test them. Furthermore, using your argument, I might ask you if you have ever had a colonic and actually seen the pounds of so called mucoid plaque.

      Furthermore, your statement, “However, people, in the name of science have undoubtably [sic] referenced the experiments without ever second-guessing the data, results, or reproducing the experiment [sic] for themselves.” is blatantly wrong. Science, if nothing else, is based on skeptical inquiry. For example, the whole debacle of cold fusion shows how science works. The so called experimenters took the results to the public without publishing in scientific journals where they could be tested. They were proven wrong, but entire groups of scientifically ignorant people now believe that cold fusion exists and is being suppressed by the big power companies. If your premise were true, then we all would have jumped on the bandwagon and espoused the miracle of cold fusion. In fact, it is the non-scientists who blindly accepted the claims as true, just as you accept the whole colon cleanse myth.

      Your have an obvious and blatant bias against science as evidenced by your final comment, “… the very same science you undoubtedly follow.” Let me remind you that It is that science that has produced the technological breakthroughs that allow you to sit at, or hold, a device and express yourself to the world. It is that science that has created the medical breakthroughs that have saved lives, and given us longer and healthier lives.

      • winsolo

        I want to make one thing clear before I begin discussing your topics: I am not here to debate, but rather discuss. That being said, the theme that I’ve been examining is whether science is pursuing knowledge or proving knowledge? They may seem similar, but the end goal is fundamentally very different. Therefore, I never questioned the scientific community’s method as being wrong, but possible manipulation within the field and how the information is being used. For instance, how does large companies, schools, or governments use these studies? How does the information impact, and potentially manipulate the population’s mind? This brings up your “cold fusion” story. Regardless of the background information, if a story reaches public news then the information is elevated beyond truth or
        fiction. Information must be presented with the greatest sensitivity, because
        when the public hears “scientifically proven” or “trials show that…” the
        credibility of the information becomes elevated despite the accuracy.
        Ironically, if respected journals began producing studies showing that mucoid plaques exist, then the majority of the people would begin to believe it regardless of how it was previously viewed. This is observed by the public when scientists baffle people with contradicting claims that eggs are good or bad for you. It shows how scientific information is in a fickle.

        “Your lenth[ier] treatise, while very [un]amusing, is naïve and [demonstrates a] wrong [attitude].” Well, I don’t want to be treating people like you, so how
        about we change being completely “wrong” to being misguided. To clarify a few points, comparing the study of biology to physics is comparing apples to oranges. The difference in experimental testing renders physics as a
        quantitative system, whereas biology is not. Therefore, using ridiculous
        examples of whether the sky is blue bears no relevance to whether mucoid
        plaques exist; and rather serves to derail the emphasis that the human biology is complex and not completely understood. Let’s stick to the science that pertains to colon cleansing, rather than arbitrary information for your argument.

        To return to the discussion, I have observed mucoidal plaques. I am a relatively healthy person, and have not experienced the pounds, but have discovered some. I observed this by experimentation, curiosity and observation. A person can use science and still be inquisitive of what is being released by the scientific establishment. Your conclusion that I am “obvious[ly] and blatant[ly] bias[ed] against science” serves to remind people how the high and mighty scientific zealot condemns those who philosophize and question how science is used (which in that sentence I see very little convincing evidence of proving your assertion above). Let me remind you one last time, I use zealot not in a derogatory manner but rather to stress the point, that this very discussion in-of-itself, proves how you have chosen to argue for the method of science; rather than examining the inherent exploitations of the science.

    • What you didnt think about is that the clay itself (the powder in the detox) is the very thing that is coming out!

      • huh ?

        WRONG ! … If that’s true then you’d be craping out the ropes all the time, but you don’t get any more of them after the initial cleansing process

        • Robert McAndrew

          Before making grand declaration in all caps, please answer this. Have you ever crapped out a long rope of so called mucoid plaque?

          • Wadayano ?

            Did a 3 month initial drnatura.com cleanse, then took a 3 month break but continued the organic fruits, veg, and juicing, then did a follow-up 2 month cleanse, then took another 3 month break,. then did a final 1 month cleanse, and been doing an annual cleanse ever since. Got 6 ropes out the first round, a few bits and pieces the 2nd, and none the third, and haven’t gotten any since; the stuff lives up to every claim so long as you do it right … and here again, anyone can demonstrate this for themselves as several people I know tried it after seeing my results and got identical results ! … But don’t take my word for it, try it and see for yourself !

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    • Robert McAndrew

      Before calling people ignorant, look to your own ignorance, and hateful comments.

      • Diddly doo

        Have you ever read a medical peer reviewed study? Not only are most of them paid for nonsense they are deliberately written to cause brain fog

        • Says the guy who apparently was unable to get the degree he wanted.

          • Diddly doo

            LOL. Replies the guy who as soon as someone questions his wobbly box, chucks teddy out of the pram and pushes the ‘ad hom button’.
            Come on Pasta boy, why do you think medical peer reviewed research is so utterly failing to deliver? Why after billions of dollars do they still not know how to fix cancer or even the common cold?
            Why do they just do studies on pain killers for people with arthritis? or disable the immune system and call it ‘treatment’?

            Try and engage with that and show me you have more than an academic toolbox, let’s see the brain engage and you are not allowed to use the ‘adhom’ button or the straw man or the apple to motion button either. Let’s have a conversation and turn this blog into something useful and up to date.

            • Becky Wegner Rommel luvs Jesus

              You just “engaged” a comment that’s 2 years old above. Weird.

            • Diddly doo

              Well when you are walking down the sidewalk and you find a dog doo right in the middle of the road, do you walk on by or clear it out of the way? Sometimes we just gotta deal with crap, the nets full of it.

            • Diddly doo

              It is kind of funny that you picked that up and the Pasta boy seems to have woken up after a long trip, he still thinks EBM and medical peer review are the new boys on the block, I think he is having a crisis of confidence, he can’t engage in a discussion, all he can do is press the ‘shits’ button and hope it will all go away.

          • Diddly doo

            Is that a barp smokescreen or are you just unable to write more than a polemical paragraph? Come on, tell us what you think about the total collapse of the evidence based medical peer reviewed paradigm?? Are you a total convert or just a part time poster?

            • Diddly doo

              What is the big issue, I got a degree, so did most of my friends, so what. Sounds like your degree just taught you how to fill in data sheets. Do you ever think for yourself or do you just play computer games and smoke weed all day long?

            • Robert McAndrew

              Diddly Doo Doo, do you mean lie the smokescreen you are throwing up to hide the weaknesses in the whole colon cleanse myth? Again, try to stick to the topic at hand, it s not peer reviewed medical journals.

        • Becky Wegner Rommel luvs Jesus

          Most of the critics of peer reviewed studies are anti-vaxxers who don’t believe Andrew Wakefield’s actual agenda was to push his competitors out of the way so he could get rich selling his own MMR vaccine. And unless these holistic treatments are being offered for free, the same goes for the rest. The “follow the money” thing is laughable, since EVERYTHING leads back to money.

          • Diddly doo

            Not true Becky. EBM is failing, the critiques are ex editors of the major medical peer reviewed journals and the researchers themselves.
            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24819404

            Evidence-based medicine (EBM) was announced in the early 1990s as a ‘new
            paradigm’ for improving patient care. Yet there is currently little
            evidence that EBM has achieved its aim. Since its introduction, health
            care costs have increased while there remains a lack of high-quality
            evidence suggesting EBM has resulted in substantial population-level
            health gains.

            In this paper we suggest that EBM’s potential for
            improving patients’ health care has been thwarted by bias in the choice
            of hypotheses tested, manipulation of study design and selective
            publication. Evidence for these flaws is clearest in industry-funded
            studies.

            We argue EBM’s indiscriminate acceptance of industry-generated
            ‘evidence’ is akin to letting politicians count their own votes. Given
            that most intervention studies are industry funded, this is a serious
            problem for the overall evidence base.

            Clinical decisions based on such
            evidence are likely to be misinformed, with patients given less
            effective, harmful or more expensive treatments.

            More investment in
            independent research is urgently required. Independent bodies, informed
            democratically, need to set research priorities.

            We also propose that
            evidence rating schemes are formally modified so research with conflict
            of interest bias is explicitly downgraded in value.

        • Robert McAndrew

          Diddly doo doo, Once again, you are trying to use slight of hand to steer the discussion down a side street and away from the argument at hand.

      • Diddly doo

        Well that means you are saying that medical peer reviewed evidence is not valid, on that I think a lot of people would agree.

      • Diddly doo

        What is this magickal medical scientific evidence Michael, why are you relying on funded answers instead of common sense. Who decided that the only evidence that can be accepted medically is that which is paid for?

      • Diddly doo

        Did you know that 498mg of a 500mg aspirin tablet is vitamin C. It is well known the benefits that vitamin C have on cardio health. Funny how the aspirin lobby don’t tell us that 20 mins after taking vitamin C the arteries relax. Collagen has Vitamin C as part of its make up, it is why people die from scurvy, they literally fall apart. Did you know that well known anti inflammatory Ibuprofen inhibits collagen formation in wounds making them less strong. Taking Ibuprofen with left shoulder pain doubles the chance of a heart attack too.
        http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fda-strengthens-warning-that-nsaids-increase-heart-attack-and-stroke-risk-201507138138

        So your nice safe medically peer reviewed doctor might actually kill you by suggesting you take a painkiller instead of looking at why you have pain. Because they can’t use their common sense to think about it.

        • Where do you get this shit? Uncoated aspirin tablets are about 90% acetylsalicylic acid, along with a minor amount of inert fillers and binders. 500 mg refers to the aspirin content, not the mass of the pill!

          Your paranoid rants are quite entertaining. Please continue to post this stuff!