This Papa is scared of the shmeasles measles

Editor’s note: This article was originally published in June 2014. It has been revised and updated to improve readability and correct and update some information

This is 2014. We have sent people to the moon. I can be in contact with people from Australia, Germany, Israel, or someone a few blocks away from me (whom I’ve never actually met in person) without stepping away from my computer. I can see photos of my lovely and brilliant daughters, without having to thumb through an album with fading Kodak photographs.

And you know what else? Our modern medicine can prevent measles: in 2000, it was declared non-endemic in the United States, meaning that there were no wild measles viruses floating around the USA. It was considered one of the great public health victories, along with eliminating smallpox and polio (almost, give it a year or so).

But now measles is coming back. In 2014, the United States is seeing the highest number of cases since 1994. It’s in the few hundreds at this point, but that’s way more than before and the trend is worrying. In the past years, Europe had seen tens of thousands of cases of measles, along with numerous hospitalizations and death. This is unnecessary suffering: we have an extremely effective and safe vaccine against measles. But like brakes, seatbelts, and bulletproof vests, it tends not to work as well if you don’t use it.

Thanks to anti-vaccine misinformation, the rate of vaccination against the measles has dropped slightly. Problematically, the decline in vaccination isn’t evenly distributed across the country, pockets of unvaccinated occur in various locations, where just a child who picks up the disease in a foreign country can quickly spread it through a community.

All about Megan


Most recently, a young blogger with the nom de plume of Megan, who has a remarkable gift for getting things wrong, wrote a post entitled, This Mama Isn’t Scared of the Shmeasle Measles. The short version of her babbling, incoherent post is that the she claims the measles vaccine is more dangerous than the disease.

There are a lot of bad anti-vaccine articles out there, thus, I have to pick and choose the ones I refute, because it would be a 24/7 job. Megan’s article usually would not deserve attention, because it truly has not one accurate point in it. However, because anti-vaccine cultists lack any evidence to support their claims, they support their claims from fiction and lies from a circular, self-referrring system of false claims about vaccines. Just keep repeating a lie enough times, and it becomes the truth.

So, let’s begin with the author Megan herself, about whom I’ve previously written regarding her whiny privileged white girl persecution complex. Oh, and Orac deconstructed her victimization too. One more thing, Liz Ditz mentions that Megan is really Megan Heimer, who’s been blogging balderdash for quite a while.

Megan claims to have a degree in Political Science, a law degree, and is a naturopath. I’m sure having a political science degree (and for those who don’t know, political science is not a natural science, one that includes studying diseases and immune system) makes one quite capable of discussing why Congress is ineffective. And a law degree helps you understand the law. But neither give you any knowledge of real science. Maybe she took one or two courses in biology or something, but that hardly means your the equivalent of a world class researcher in immunology. It makes you capable of washing glassware in a world class laboratory, but probably not.

She does claim to be a “naturopath,” which doesn’t mean much by itself. There is an official degree, called Naturopathic Doctor (ND), that includes a formal education in naturopathy, though it’s cruft of the highest order. There are people who claim they are “naturopaths” without any formal education or licensing (some states license ND’s like they’re doctors, a frightful development).

I would assume since Megan brags about her degree in political science and her law degree, she’d be also be bragging about her ND, which she doesn’t, so I can only presume she is merely describing herself as a naturopath, but she was too lazy to do the pseudoscience of an ND degree (I mean that’s borderline pathetic).

Irrespective of whether she has formal ND degree or not, naturopathy is simply gobbledegook–it depends on pseudosciences like homeopathy, which is just water, vitalism, and germ theory denialism. There is absolutely nothing in naturopathy that has any basis in real science. The myths of naturopathy have been debunked over and over again. There’s no sense in actually spending time on that, because others, like David Gorski, have done it so well.

But the true despicable nature of naturopathy is their unscientific and unethical dismissal of the value of vaccines. Children getting care from naturopaths have lower vaccination rates and much higher risks of vaccine preventable diseases. In fact, according to Downey et al. (2010), children under the care of naturopaths have a 67% higher risk of contracting a vaccine preventable disease than do children in the care of an MD with a real background in medicine.

Thus, before I can spend a nanosecond ripping apart Megan’s bogus, ignorant and uneducated claims, it’s hard to get beyond the fact that she practices a form of alternative medicine that causes nearly double the rate of preventable diseases. How can anyone trust someone with that level of callous disregard for the health of children?

But let’s not stop with her utter lack of scientific and medical background. Well, other than the medical knowledge she gains by osmosis from her husband, who she claims is a Captain in the US Air Force and a family practice physician. Oh wait. In the Air Force, everyone is vaccinated. In fact, officers, airmen, soldiers, everyone are vaccinated with just about everything out there, including a few that aren’t typically given to the general public. Why does the US Military (and probably every modern military in the world) vaccinate so heavily? Because they like their soldiers to be healthy and ready to fight and protect the homeland. S

o Megan’s husband, since he was a general practitioner in the US Air Force probably vaccinated hundred or thousands of airmen and officers. And he was vaccinated too. So, Megan’s hypocrisy is limitless.

Megan is clueless about danger of measles


OK, back on track here. Let’s start skeptically demolishing some of her nonsense. First ignorant comment:

[infobox icon=”quote-left”]If you’ve been watching the media, subscribing to anti-vaxxer hate articles, or just so happen to come across the World Health Organization statistics, you’ll see that 122,000 people die from measles globally each year. Scary right?

Yet, on that same MMWR report the CDC lists the clinical definition for measles as “an illness characterized by a generalized rash lasting ≥3 days, a temperature of ≥101°F [≥38.3°C], and cough, coryza, and/or conjunctivitis.” In other words, a rash, cough, and fever is how measles typically presents at the doctor’s office here in the United States, and this is the clinical definition used on all of their reports and surveillance data. Do you know how many people die each year from measles in this country? About zero.

So which is it? A deadly disease…or a rash? Well, it depends on whether we’re using global statistics. If you’re not, it’s a rash. If you’re trying to sensationalize a disease and fear monger people into vaccinating their kids with one of the most controversial vaccines there is…it’s an earth-shattering, beyond words terrifying, deadly disease. Except that it’s not…not in America anyway, and it’s not hard to see why.[/infobox]

Measles is a deadly disease. According to the CDC,

  • As many as 1 out of every 20 children with measles gets pneumonia
  • About 1 child in every 1,000 who get measles will develop encephalitis. (This is an inflammation of the brain that can lead to convulsions, and can leave the child deaf or mentally disabled.)
  • For every 1,000 children who get measles, 1 or 2 will die from it.
  • Measles also can make a pregnant woman have a miscarriage, give birth prematurely, or have a low-birth-weight baby.

So what Megan has done here is dismiss the disease as minor because she creates a false dichotomy that either the child dies or gets a little rash and fever. But the fact that she ignores, because she lacks any education in medicine or science, is that it’s not all about mortality. It’s about the 5% who catch measles, then go to the hospital for pneumonia. Or it’s the 0.1% who get encephalitis. Or it’s a pregnant woman who has a worse fetal outcome because of the measles.

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Megan is clueless about vaccines


But you know what Megan really disregards? It is the basic fact that vaccines have mostly conquered measles. And so she is protected from hearing about 1000 babies dying in the USA from measles, because we simply don’t have that many cases of measles, because we “mostly” defeated it with vaccines.

Because the herd immunity against measles is still strong, epidemics don’t get a chance to get going, so even this year, there’s 397 cases with no deaths. Given the 1-2 out of 1000 cases death rate, the odds just haven’t caught up yet (not that odds work like that, I do have a strong math background). But here’s the thing that Megan ignores, because her callousness towards measles has blinded her–about 11% of those cases required hospitalization, including intensive care to save the child. Does Megan want children to end up in the ICU or NICU because “measles doesn’t kill?” What an insane, immoral belief.

Megan is clueless about history


Her next comment is shockingly ignorant:

[infobox icon=”quote-left”]So far, in 2014 there have been 288 (actually 397, but who’s counting) cases of measles, no cases of encephalitis, and no death. In 2013 there were 189 cases of measles, no encephalitis and no death. In 2012 there were 54 cases of measles, no encephalitis, and no death. In 2011, there were 22 cases of measles, and you guessed it…no encephalitis, and no death. I could go on, but you get the point. By and large, measles is unpleasant, not deadly.

In comparison, the same cannot be said for the MMR vaccine. As of March 1, 2012 there were 842 serious injuries following the MMR vaccine and 56 deaths. Since 1990 there have been more than 6,058 serious adverse events reported to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). What’s even more sad is that only 1-10% of cases are actually reported on this database. Oh now I remember, statistics are only important as it relates to measles cases…not MMR adverse reactions. And of course, the global MMR death statistics aren’t important either.[/infobox]

This is an absurd, absolutely inane, comparison. Only someone who is utterly irresponsible or ignorant of simple mathematics would make such a comment.


Since the 397 cases are in a smaller population pool of unvaccinated individuals (only 10% of those who contracted measles were previously vaccinated), so about 350 of those individuals came out of the much smaller pool of unvaccinated Americans. Let’s say 15 million Americans are not vaccinated against the measles, so the risk for them is about 2 out 100,000. Small, but significant.

Now, Megan decided to use the VAERS system of vaccine injuries, which for the real world, is a passive, ineffective measurement, and, according to the VAERS website itself, “when evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established.” Megan is using a seriously flawed system to account for adverse effects. VAERS only usefulness is as a radar system for potential vaccine issues that need to be analyzed for causality. And most of the stuff reported to VAERS would never pass the sniff test of causation.

Let’s find a better resource for the risk of serious adverse effects from MMR vaccines. The United States Institute of Medicine (a part of the National Academies of Science, the world’s most prestigious scientific academy), a respected group whose experience in immunology, pathology, virology, public health, microbiology, medicine and other biomedical disciplines and whose knowledge and intellect far outweighs Megan’s political science degree,* has published an extensive analysis of adverse effects of related to the MMR vaccines.

The Institute of Medicine not only reviewed the published clinical evidence, but also reviewed plausibility (that is, is there a reasonable physiological pathway between the vaccine and a claimed adverse event). These researchers, the top of their profession concluded the following–of all of the adverse events reported, only inclusion body encephalitis (and that’s only with individuals who are immune-compromised), febrile seizures (which are short-term seizures brought on by high fevers), anaphylaxis (a serious allergic reaction), and arthralgia (any type of non-inflammatory reaction to a medication) were reported to have a causal relationship to the MMR vaccine. That’s it, mostly minor, including febrile seizures (which sounds scary, may appear to be scary, but really isn’t scary).

The Institute of Medicine, who included individuals who weren’t too lazy to obtain a Ph.D. in immunology after partying through a bachelor’s degree in political science, stated there was no evidence supporting causality of almost all of the claimed adverse effects found in VAERS. In fact, for autism and Type 1 diabetes, they said the evidence rejects the hypothesis that either of those two conditions were related to the MMR vaccine.

Look what Megan has done here. She cherry picks through VAERS, which cannot show you anything, to find adverse events that have been rejected as being caused by MMR by a group of scientists who have knowledge, research and training far beyond a naturopath, who has no training, scientific knowledge, or research. So she wants you to believe her invented numbers, ones that have all the scientific foundation as her belief in homeopathy, somehow overwhelm the small number of measles complications.

But let’s assume that VAERS actually gave us real data. What Megan still ignores is that if the country stopped vaccinating against measles, within a year or two, 5-10 million children will catch it (because it’s so contagious). And out of those children, how many will die? 10,000? 20,000? And the cost to the country will be overwhelming.

You see, here’s the thing. Megan, in her narcissistic little world, gets to hide behind the herd effect, then pronounce, ignorantly and inaccurately, that MMR is evil. Measles are harmless. Based on no science whatsoever.

Megan creates a false equivalence


[infobox]But measles can cause blindness…so can the MMR vaccine. (editor’s note–according to the Institute of Medicine, no it doesn’t.)

But measles can cause encephalitis…so can the MMR vaccine (editor’s note–according to the Institute of Medicine, only for those who are immune compromised, which probably should be uncovered before vaccinating.)

But measles can cause pneumonia…so can the MMR vaccine. (editor’s note–according to the Institute of Medicine, no.)[/infobox]

It’s Megan inventing stuff again. I mean, I don’t know how much I can take. But I shall persevere.

Megan is clueless about measles again


So Megan continues to repeat herself and reach for new heights of misinformation:

Meganbut if my child gets measles…they could die. Given U.S statistics, they’re more likely to die from the MMR vaccine.

Skeptical Raptor – Megan, that is simply a lie. There is no correlation or causality between MMR vaccine and death. NONE. Moreover, in your narcissistic conversation with yourself, you continue to conflate morbidity with mortality. There are terrible consequences of measles that do not include death.

Meganbut the measles vaccine has prevented so many deaths. Wrong. 

Skeptical Raptor –  Megan, that’s actually another lie. We have boatloads of evidence that vaccines have prevented morbidity and mortality from measles. We don’t have to look back 100 years, we can look back 20–measles cases dropped from 55,000 in 1991 to 189 in 2013. This happened because of the Vaccines for Children Program.

Meganbut the measles vaccine has been proven safe and effective. Wrong again. But hey, call me up when someone does a double-blind (saline/inert) placebo controlled study on this vaccine, and let me know when “effective” means “life-time immunity.”

Skeptical Raptor – no Megan, it is simply unethical and immoral to do a double blinded study with vaccines. This shows your utter incompetence and immaturity in bioethics, immunology, virology and every other field of science. Your ignorance knows no bounds. You cannot force people into the placebo arm, because you’re withholding an immunization that could save their lives. And are you going to volunteer for this study, in which your child may be in the vaccinated group? No, you can’t choose, it invalidates the double-blind nature. But you didn’t know that because you are a simpleton.

Megan is clueless about the immune system


Megan – But if you don’t vaccinate, my baby who is too young to be vaccinated will be at risk. Absolutely not true. What puts our babies at risk is the waning immunity that comes from a highly vaccinated population. You know what would give your baby a good dose of protection for the first year of their life? You guessed it, a mother whose been exposed to wild measles who then passes on these antibodies to protect her baby for the first year of life.

Skeptical Raptor – no Megan, this is bad science, along with a big dose of lies. There is simply no difference between the immune response to a vaccine and to a wild virus. Well, there is one difference. Here’s a little education about pathogens – a pathogenic bacteria or virus causes harm to the host before it can develop an immune response.

That’s how pathogens work. That’s how they’ve worked for 2-3 billion years, ever since the first pathogen attacked the first cell. A vaccine provides all of the antigens of the bacteria or virus, inducing an adaptive immune response. Except without that nasty pathogenic attack that harms the child.

I wrote an article about a nerdy way to describe the immune system, but it probably has no meaning to Megan:

[infobox icon=”quote-left”]Here’s a nerdy metaphor (because, yes, we’re nerds). Think about a video game that allows you to do a practice round. You figure out the controls while playing against the computer on a very easy setting, before attempting to take on a far more powerful opponent in the game itself.

Without the practice, you’d go into the game blind, and would almost certainly be defeated as you have no prior knowledge or tools with which to fight the bad guy. Vaccines work similarly. They provide a powerless enemy in a controlled setting that is unable to cause disease in the body.

The fascinating part is that a healthy immune system can still learn how to destroy this enemy, even without previously having encountered that particular virus before. Vaccines trigger an immune response in which your body identifies the appropriate “B” and “T” cells needed to destroy a particular virus and replicates them, creating “memory cells” that stay in your body. Then when your body encounters the stronger, meaner version of the virus in the real world, it is already equipped with the prior knowledge and weapons to defeat the virus.

Thus, it has a better chance of eliminating the virus before that virus has the opportunity to co-opt your body for use as a factory for unleashing armies of viruses into the world to infect other members of the community, not to mention make you miserably ill in the process. This is the SAME WAY that your body creates immunity to a virus after getting sick – only, you don’t have to actually get sick to do it. A vaccine, in other words, is target practice for your immune system. What’s so unnatural about that?[/infobox]

So, there you go. The only real way to build an immune response is through vaccines. And one more thing Megan. The mother does pass IgA immunoglobulins through the breast milk to the baby. But the baby doesn’t start manufacturing copies of that IgA, and it really only protects against pathogens in the gut, it won’t do much for measles, which is transmitted through respiration. And no, the IgA molecules don’t miraculously enter the baby’s bloodstream, flow to the lungs and attack the measles virus there. That’s not how IgA works. It can’t get transported from the gut to the bloodstream. You should know this basic science. But you don’t.

Megan is clueless about autism


Skipping through some of Megan’s untruths, exaggerations, and lies, we get to this stunner (and by stunner I mean, it took so long to mention autism):

[infobox icon=”quote-left”]Of course, we only associate the MMR vaccine with autism. The big argument is that (a) MMR isn’t associated with autism, and (b) it could be, but the deadly threat of measles is more dangerous than a lifetime of autism…so for the sake of everyone we should all vaccinate. Whether you believe in the connection between MMR and autism, or not – if there is even the slightest chance that the MMR vaccine triggers any disease, we should not be injecting any child with this vaccine. A mild, unpleasant measles rash pales in comparison to ALL of the possible adverse MMR reactions.[/infobox]

I’m going to make this simple. There is NO evidence whatsoever, which were examined in 100’s of peer-reviewed studies, costing billions of dollars (which could have been spent on community based systems to help families with autistic children), that vaccines, including MMR, have caused any cases of autism. NONE.

And given the extraordinary danger of a mass epidemic of measles, if everyone thinks like Megan, it far outweighs the precious few adverse events that have been established by real scientists, those who decided not to be an intellectually deficient individual like Megan.


Megan is clueless about evidence


Finally, and thankfully, because I had to read her claptrap writings, she concludes with this:


[infobox icon=”quote-left”]I’m all for evidence-based medicine, but I draw the line at “bad evidence.”

I’m not vaccinating my children. No way. No how. Not ever. This mama isn’t scared of the shmeasle measles.[/infobox]

As far as I can tell the evidence for the safety and effectiveness of the MMR vaccine is overwhelming. If by “bad evidence,” Megan means “evidence I don’t like,” well that’s her ignorance, but it shouldn’t be the world’s. On one hand we have the Institute of Medicine, made up of geniuses who through a logical process of examining plausibility, the evidence, and clinical case studies, have found little evidence that the MMR vaccine is “dangerous.”


Moreover, Megan goes out of her way to belittle “shmeasles measles” (by the way, a fairly lame subversion of Yiddish, but that’s never going to be my point), while simply ignoring history, epidemiology and modern medicine.

Megan doesn’t know squat. But Megan’s worst characteristic is her arrogance–she believes her pseudoscientific naturopathy knowledge and political science degree somehow trumps real science. Megan can’t even get simple math straight. I know that most people who read Megan’s arrogant and ignorant nonsense already believe in the pseudoscience of the antivaccination cult. But I hope that someone will read it and think, “what the hell is this woman saying?”



  • I do not ascribe to the Argument from Authority, where someone attempts to win an argument based on their comparative authority in an area. However, if you are an immunologist, published dozens of articles in peer-reviewed immunology journals, and are considered one of the leaders in immunology, your comments outweigh a empty-headed political science major named Megan.
  • Also, special thanks to Dorit Rubinstein Reiss who wrote most of the first few paragraphs to this article, since I was having some major writer’s block!

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  • medicalpeereview

    ” Europe had seen tens of thousands of cases of measles, along with numerous hospitalizations and death.” The wooster

    Nice appeal to emotion with absolutely no citation to support it, same with the ‘graph’ you showed of ‘provisional notifications’. why the fuck do you think people are going to change their minds with anecdotes like this?

    All the ‘deaths’ from measles – one child in Berlin – who had been given the MMR 10 days before he died. Of course the death is a tragedy, but claiming non vaccinated as a reason was a lie. Where are all these cases wooster, doctors telling us is the same as lies! Just look at the pandemic flu scare, says it all.

    • medicalpeereview

      Because of blogs like yours, we are learning that doctors are glove puppets

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Megan graduated from one of the worst law schools in the country. Thomas m Cooley law school is known for accepting candidates that no other school would touch.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    The woo is strong with megan…..

    This prompted us to throw out our microwave, ditch the gluten, sugar, milk, pork, and genetically modified foods, burn our medicine cabinet, wear our kids, breastfeed our babies, recycle our trash, up the probiotics, unschool our kids, and rip up the CDC’s vaccination schedule.

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  • Guest

    I can respect you and your husbands beliefs,with no regrets, I hope you two can respect our beliefs, I am not going to judge, and I sure am not a hypocrite. Everyone has their own beliefs. The only problem is, I do believe in vaccines, and don’t want children to go to school not vaccinated! Vaccines aren’t 100% effective, so unvaccinated children puts my children at risk. But, if cancer could spread around without vaccines, you would get your children vaccinated!

    • VikingAPRNCNP

      Hpv does cause cancer and is preventable with a vaccine.

  • malibu

    Skeptical Raptor, I think I love you.

    This is the best post I’ve seen that refutes Megan Heimer, who spreads lies and misinformation, and is a threat to public health.

  • Rasa

    Here is a snippet from an exchange on Megan Heimer’s blog:

    The person conversing with Megan is a pediatric immunologist.

    It is just extraordinary that Megan assumes this a peer to peer discussion. The hubris and, frankly, the stupidity is amazing.

    I also thought this very diplomatic physician/scientist deserved a wider and more sympathetic audience.

    Hello Megan,

    As you know, Dr. Hedrich’s paper that you reference, here:
    was written in 1933. As I’m sure you’re aware, this was long before the measles or any other modern form of vaccination even existed. This paper has been referenced at least 74 times by other peer-reviewed publications; see:,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.85076809,d.cGU&biw=1144&bih=972&dpr=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=3211498102828063009
    These include at least a dozen much more recent (up to 2011) major reviews of evidence and statistics on herd immunity and herd immunity threshold, and yet these are all ignored by the anti-vaccination community, including Dr. Obukhanych’s (who, btw, charges $100/person to view her ‘sessions’). Some of those papers and conclusions therein are quoted below (all of which are freely and entirely accessible by anyone).
    “Conclusions. —Modest improvements in low levels of immunization coverage among 2-year-olds confer substantial protection against measles outbreaks. Coverage of 80% or less may be sufficient to prevent sustained measles outbreaks in an urban community.”
    “Many examples of herd immunity have been described, illustrating the importance of indirect protection for predicting the short- and long-term impact of vaccination programs, for justifying them economically, and for understanding the nature of the immunity induced by various vaccines.”
    “Impressive examples of indirect protection have been observed after the introduction of conjugate vaccines against pneumococcal and Haemophilus infections. Reductions in disease incidence among cohorts too old to have been vaccinated have been responsible for one- to two-thirds of the total disease reduction attributable to these vaccines in some populations. These are due to the ability of conjugate vaccines to protect vaccinees not only against disease but also against nasal carriage, and hence infectiousness.”

    And “Herd Immunity: History, Theory, Practice”
    “Some authors have implied that such events challenge the
    concept of population protection by a high prevalence of immunes (3-5). This is too pessimistic an appraisal. The fact that indirect protection fails to occur in some communities
    or small populations (perhaps because of a chance aggregation of vaccine failures or an exceptionally high exposure intensity) does not invalidate that it generally does occur, just as the failure of a vaccine in one individual does not refute its effectiveness in most.”

    Megan Heimer says

    February 1, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    I know it was written in 1933. It is THE PAPER on herd immunity. He is the guy who invented the concept upon which your arguments are founded so it might be kind of important to read. (Kind of like Jenner and vaccinations?) It is from this paper that people who support vaccines have derived their faulty assumptions, yet Hedrich (whose study was based on 30 years of reasearch) was based on exposure to wild measles, lifetime immunity, and the percentage needed to obtain herd immnunity was only 68%.

    I have read the other papers you cited. They are all severely lacking and based on the assumption that herd immunity applies to vaccines – something that provides TEMPORARY immunity (if any) at best. I would advise reading these papers in their entirety, not just the conclusions.

    Finally, I would gladly pay Dr. Tetyana $100 to meet with her. She has a PhD in immunology. Should she not be compensated for her time, effort, and research? Is she not providing a service? She could easily make more promoting your viewpoint so it’s clearly not about the money. Have you seen how much some of the people are paid who hold your views (like Offit?). The only difference is that Dr. Tetyana does not have political or financial conflicts of interest influencing her educated opinions.

    I will not be responding further as we will not see eye to eye on this issue. I’m sure you understand. Respectfully, Megan

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  • lollygag

    I commented on all of her responses on her site proving her wrong, and she just deleted all of them! muahhaah! my work here is done!

  • lollygag

    I commented on her site that you’re born with autism, and she asked me to cite that… she’s an idiot. end of story.

  • StoneMaxwell

    Good article. Thank you for providing a well reasoned response to this misinformed measles article.

  • Rasa

    The misinformation, unfortunately, continues. Megan has written several additional articles on vaccination, most recently, the ironically titled “Why I left the anti-vaccination movement.” (not to mention a disturbing ” Synthetic vitamin K shot for my baby? No thanks.” )

    She is, unfortunately, an engaging writer and for those lacking scientific training, persuasive.

    “In my posts, I use the same documents those who support vaccinations use, the only difference is that I actually read the studies and see the inconsistencies. You think we should vaccinate for emotional reasons. I think we should vaccinate only if they are proven safe, effective, and are without adverse reaction.”

    You see, she actually reads the studies. Never mind that she has minimal scientific training and a negligible grasp of biostatistics. Fortunately for her, her following is even less sophisticated than she is, so this passes as a kind of wisdom.

    • But she’s not honest, intellectually or morally. And she’s lying about her ability to comprehend the science.

      • Rasa

        I completely agree that she does not understand the science. Yet, she remains confident and righteous about her scientific claims. Perhaps you underestimate the intoxicating power of the Dunning-Kruger effect you wrote about a while ago ; – )

      • VikingAPRNCNP

        I don’t think her vitae holds up. I find it difficult to believe she graduated from college in 2 years. Her veracity is lacking to be charitable.

        Then again she graduated from the worst law school in the country.

    • lilady R.N.

      Here’s the Brisbane Coroner’s report about the death of an infant from multiple brain bleeds, due to the infant not receiving a Vitamin K shot in the birthing hospital.

      It’s a grim reminder about a senseless infant death due to plain ignorance.

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  • Louisa Ho Yen Lai

    Great article! It still makes me wish that all the anti-vaccine cultists would just do us all a favour and die off from the face of this planet or else it’s going to be Idiocracy in the making.

  • Jim Bates

    Thank you for this excellent article. I tried (very politely but thoroughly) to highlight some of the errors and omissions in Megan’s article in the discussion but this was of course moderated away. Megan only allows comments which support her claims or lack sufficient detail to pre-empt her silly retorts. This makes it appear to gullible readers that no one is able to mount a convincing argument against her claims. Very sad that people are falling for this garbage.

    • As far as I can tell, Megan and the truth are strangers. There are at least 5 different versions of her background that she herself has claimed. Someone tried to post this article on her post. It got “moderated away”!

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  • Also, Megan is not the best source of info. She doesn’t actually tell the truth about much of anything.

    you google her enough, you will see she represents herself as having a
    phd, a naturopathy doctorate, a jd, a degree in political science, a
    degree in natural health therapy, and more. But they are all lies. She
    has no degrees she actually finished. She lies about her own education
    and this is probably why she really does not do a great job presenting
    the scientific evidence about vaccines, because she really does not have
    enough education to actually understand what she is saying. And her
    husband is not a board licensed doctor of osteopathy. He has no
    finished his degree at all. No I don’t stalk them. A simple google found
    this out.

    • From what I’ve been reading, Megan’s background is a bit fungible. It changes as necessary.

      • VikingAPRNCNP

        Somewhat like ciaparker2. A very very casual acquaintance with the truth.

    • lollygag

      her about me says she’s an attorney, yoga instructor, etc. etc, and a stay at home mama. How can you be all of those? and her disclaimer says she’s not a licensed attorney.

  • Thanks for this. Megan makes me ALMOST wish the USA did have freedom of speech, because people misuse the privilege to pass along dangerous lies. I wish there was a way to take her blog down, as a threat to public health.

    • The problem isn’t her saying all of this. It’s people listening to her, as if she actually had a brain.

  • ChadwicktheJones

    Here’s a nerdy metaphor– vaccines are like password protection for the immune system. ‘Nuff said.

  • This is gonna make me sound like an asshole, but: If her kids get the “shmeasles measles” and (Sagan forbid*) dies, I’m going to go to her website, and laugh my ass off at her, and toss the ol’ “We fucking told you so you damnable idiot!” at her…

    *see what I did there?

  • In the one day since I posted this article, the CDC updated it’s graphic for measles.

  • lilady R.N.

    If you go to her Facebook page she has several comments about coffee enemas (the bogus Gerson cancer treatment protocol)…because cancers can be treated by liver detoxication.

    She recommends the coffee enemas for “detoxification” for infants who are at least 6 months old. What a ninny. She’s clueless about how quickly infants dehydrate and end up with dangerous electrolyte imbalances.

    What is wrong with this woman who encourages people to detoxify their babies with coffee enemas? Her ignorance is only surpassed by her monumental inflated ego about her medical knowledge.

    She’s downright dangerous.

    • shay simmons

      Someone who gives her six month old a coffee enema should be tarred, feathered, and run out of town. Seriously; what parent could possibly do this to a baby?

      • Lawrence McNamara

        Or worse, those parents of autistic children that utilize Bleach enemas (better known as MMS)…….these people are sick.

        • Along with those parents who want to intentionally infect their kids with measles, the bleach enema advocates should just be arrested.

          • Arrested? No, no. That is letting them off too easily. Those fuckers should also have to undergo bleach enemas, and baths.

    • lollygag

      why would you need to detoxify a baby? especially her baby, she’s such an advocate for breast feeding. There’s no need to detox a breastfed baby.

      • lilady R.N.

        There’s no reason to “detoxify a baby”, but that doesn’t stop Megan and her line of bullsh!t.

        • lollygag

          yea. she’s a sad sad woman.

  • Linda Tock

    She’s an idiot, plain and simple.

    I can see why Lowell quotes her. Birds of a feather, and all that.

  • Heather Vanderweide

    Thanks – great post! I can understand the writer’s block because every time I read one of Megan’s posts, I say, “This is so wrong, I don’t even know where to start!”

    You’ve probably already seen this, but for anyone else that might like to read another thorough response to one of Megan’s earlier anti-vax posts, titled “Dear Parents, Are You Being Lied To?”, this one is excellent:

  • lilady R.N.

    Megan’s husband is a Doctor of Osteopathy and he has not completed his Family Medicine residency program (class of 2015), when he plans to go into the U.S. Air Force.

    Heimer, D.O.

    Seth was born in Blessing
    Hospital and spent most of his
    childhood in the Bloomington Normal
    area. He graduated from Olivet
    Nazarene University with a biology
    degree and completed medical studies
    at Michigan State University College
    of Osteopathic Medicine. His wife
    Megan, grew up in Palmyra, and has
    her law degree. She is currently
    staying at home with daughters Mea
    and Sybil Rose.
    Family is his main focus; however,
    Seth also has interest in carpentry,
    running, fishing, yard work and
    livestock. Seth recently joined the
    Air Force and will pursue his
    medical career in the service after

    I suspect that Seth Heimer “owes” the United States government for the some of the costs or the complete costs of his paid-for tuition, where upon he is immediately promoted to Captain from his Lieutenant status which he was still attending the osteopath program at the Michigan State Osteopathy Program:

    On her Facebook page, Megan Heimer claims that she was “pro vaccine” until her osteopathy school student husband raised objections to vaccines, whereupon Megan did her “own research” by reading textbooks (as if…her naturopathy studies would qualify her to conduct such research).

    During his training at the Michigan State Osteopathy Progam and during this current residency in Family Medicine, Seth Heimer must have administered slews of vaccines. Once he is accepted into the Air Force as a commissioned officer practicing in Family Medicine, Dr. Heimer will be administering tons of vaccines to infants/children and adults, according to the Recommended Childhood and Adult Vaccine Schedules.

    So no. I do not believe that fantasy story that she has concocted about her conversion to an anti-vaccine mommy, prompted by her husband’s purported anti-vaccine stance.

    I fully understand why you, Sceptical Raptor, had writer’s block when it came to reporting this story….every last bit of the pseudoscience drivel about vaccines and the disease they prevent as presented by Megan is not just wrong, but spectacularly wrong.

    I’d like to thank you and and Dorit Rubinstein-Reiss for tackling Megan’s totally-ignorant-of- basic-science and totally-lacking-in-integraty atrocious blog post. It is more appreciated.

    • You guys astonish me in how much info you dig up.

      I misinterpreted her bio, she said he was board certified Family Practice, but if he hasn’t done his residency, he’s not board certified anything. In fact, he’s so low down the physician hierarchy, orderlies have more authority.

      Here’s the irony. If Dr. Heimer gets stationed overseas, and Megan and child come along as dependents–they will probably have to be immunized, especially if they want to use any services for officers including day care or school.

      If the US military pays for medical school (it’s an all or nothing thing), you are commissioned O-1 or O-2 (Second or First lieutenant in the USAF). Upon graduating you’re immediately promoted to O-3 (Captain in the USAF). All subsequent promotions are merit based.

      A lot of physicians are sent to the US Military’s Immunization University, where they are trained on giving vaccines. It would be delicious if Dr. Heimer was sent there.

      • Heather Vanderweide

        Yeah, I think Megan is probably in for a healthy dose of reality when her husband begins his active-duty commitment.

        Wonder if she feels at all like a hypocrite, blogging about the evils of government-supported public health practices when it is the same government paying her bills?

        Hopefully, if her husband does ever need to get a pre-deployment smallpox vax, she doesn’t decide that a “pox party” would be appropriate. ‘Cause that could be very bad :(. That vaccinia virus is live and really does shed, and I wouldn’t want a kid to go through that for no reason. I had a “robust take” for the smallpox vax back in 2006 . . . thought I was dying, but the corpsman assured me that I would survive 🙂

        • lilady R.N.

          I had a “robust take” for my smallpox vaccine (using the Dryvax vaccine from the CDC), and I gave as good as I got, when I immunized a handful of ER/ID staff at area hospitals…during the run up to the WMDs scare prior to the Iraq invasion.

          It was long sleeve shirts for me until the scab fell off (and bandages when I visited my medically fragile son at his group home).

      • lilady R.N.

        That’s what you get, when you set me loose on the internet. 🙂

        He was assigned to clinical rotations during his 3rd and 4th year while attending the Michigan State Osteopathy Program and I cannot imagine any health care facility permitting any student to have access to patients without being fully immunized.

        Captain Dr. Heimer will have plenty of time to practice “traditional” medicine during his tenure in the Air Force. If he wants to go off the rails with his naturopath wife after he fulfills his military obligations…it will be his choice. In the meantime she’s an embarrassment and a liability for him.

      • I looked up Megan once. In her linkedin, it says she want to Thomas Cooley school of law, one of the worst law schools. She only went there two years, not three, does not have a JD and cannot call herself an attorney. The school she went to for ND is not accredited and she is also pushing it to call herself a doctor.

    • shay simmons

      Gack. I live in the Bloomington/Normal area. Our loss is some other county’s … non-gain. Although given some of the woo-focused crap I’ve seen coming out of the Air Force medical branch, I guess I’m not surprised at this. One nice thing is that ol’ Seth is going to have to get vaccinated; the USAF won’t let him in, otherwise.

  • Mike Stevens

    Yes, great rebuttal of some of the more adherent antivaccine tropes.

    One analogy I use about vaccines training the immune system is the fire service. Who would you want called to put out a fire in your house when your family are trapped upstairs? Some guys called in off the street who were asked to don gear and operate equipment they had never seen before, or a team of highly trained professionals who have spent months training specifically for that scenario?

    • Remember. Vaccine tropes are like zombies. Just when you think they’re dead and buried, they arise to scare the hell out of a whole new group of people.

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  • Dorit Reiss

    Thank you for responding to this so, so problematic article. Generally, these kind of inaccurate articles aren’t worth the attention, but this one seems to have been making the rounds. It’s good to have a rebuttal handy, and such a thorough one.

  • Ben Fairbanks

    It is an often overlooked irony that the number of jabs given would be reduced by better compliance. If immunization brings about the extinction of measles, chicken pox, HPV, tetanus, etc. then we won’t need to get shots for them anymore. When was the last time your kid got a shot for small pox or polio? Eradication is the goal, and Megan is screwing it up.

    • readerone

      just FYI, kids are still routinely vaccinated for polio.

      • The only immunization that has been eliminated is smallpox. We’re right on the precipice for eliminating polio, so Ben is close!

        But the whole point makes sense. If we vaccinated and eliminated diseases like we did for measles, but came back. Ugh.

    • lilady R.N.

      My daughter, born 1970, was the last birth cohort to receive the smallpox vaccine. It was removed from the childhood vaccine schedule, 1971.